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#41
Yes .... Excellent.... Well done :-)
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#42
I agree with what everyone else has said - thoroughly well deserved.
There may have been occasional criticisms of his bowling but I have never heard anyone say a bad word about Chris Woakes the man.
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#43
I think Stingray beat us to all to it with that comment. It is true, Woakes is a thoroughly decent human being and Test cricket doesn't really have that many amongst all the show-boating "Look at me aren't I the latest God" players we see. His fellow team mate who is missing this game to argue his case before 'The Beak', should take note. Well done Woakesy, the first of many.
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#44
I was out all day yesterday so am just catching up. Absolutely thrilled to bits for Woakes, so proud that he's a Bear.
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#45
We've only had around 170 overs in this match so less than two full days of play..... and England have thrashed India. Great to see Woakes complete the rout.
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#46
I see Stokes has been added to the squad for the 3rd Test. Unless they are going to leave out a spinner, who would they leave out to play him - THE 2 PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN 'MAN OF THE MATCH' IN THE 2 TESTS SO FAR. SELECTION COMMITEE, DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING THAT.
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#47
(14-08-2018, 09:46 PM)paulbear Wrote: I see Stokes has been added to the squad for the 3rd Test. Unless they are going to leave out a spinner, who would they leave out to play him - THE 2 PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN 'MAN OF THE MATCH' IN THE 2 TESTS SO FAR. SELECTION COMMITEE, DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING THAT.

Good question. Here are some thoughts:
There was talk at the start of the series about how many Tests were being played in a short time so bowlers might need to be rested. If so, then you could rest Broad this time and Anderson next. As it happens, the games have been so short they can hardly have worked up a sweat so I expect they'll keep Anderson and Broad together until the series is won.
Curran offers something different in that he bowls left arm.
So Woakes would be the bowler at risk if Stokes is brought back, which is hardly fair after his Lord's performance.
Buttler offers nothing much. You could drop him and strengthen the team by playing Stokes as primarily a batsman. They won't do that.
You could go with an unchanged team, delaying the decision until (hopefully) we are 3-0 up.

My choice would be an unchanged team. I think they'll drop Woakes.
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#48
(15-08-2018, 08:34 AM)GrizzlyBear Wrote:
(14-08-2018, 09:46 PM)paulbear Wrote: I see Stokes has been added to the squad for the 3rd Test. Unless they are going to leave out a spinner, who would they leave out to play him - THE 2 PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN 'MAN OF THE MATCH' IN THE 2 TESTS SO FAR. SELECTION COMMITEE, DON'T EVEN THINK OF DOING THAT.

Good question. Here are some thoughts:
There was talk at the start of the series about how many Tests were being played in a short time so bowlers might need to be rested. If so, then you could rest Broad this time and Anderson next. As it happens, the games have been so short they can hardly have worked up a sweat so I expect they'll keep Anderson and Broad together until the series is won.
Curran offers something different in that he bowls left arm.
So Woakes would be the bowler at risk if Stokes is brought back, which is hardly fair after his Lord's performance.
Buttler offers nothing much. You could drop him and strengthen the team by playing Stokes as primarily a batsman. They won't do that.
You could go with an unchanged team, delaying the decision until (hopefully) we are 3-0 up.

My choice would be an unchanged team. I think they'll drop Woakes.

Surely they won't drop Woakes?! Stokes didn't exactly have the finest game with the bat in the first test so Woakes is a better batting option currently.
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#49
I am really struggling to see why Stokes has been added to the squad. England won convincingly and were very good. If he was a specialist batsman there might have been an argument for him to replace Buttler, but all the seamers did an excellent job. Leaving out Woakes at Trent Bridge, where he is likely to find conditions favouring swing, would be madness.

I realise that the ECB would struggle to organise the proverbial drinks do in a brewery, but I can't see why the disciplinary hearing for Stokes can't be held within the next week. He could then take whatever medicine is coming his way and thereafter start with a clean slate.
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#50
Nah, Woakes won't be dropped. I suspect Stokes won't play in this game.
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#51
I was wrong. Again. Stokes in for Curran.
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#52
This story of a cricket lover spending his last hours listening to Chris Woakes scoring his maiden Test hundred is quite emotional:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/20/test-matc...h-7862039/
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#53
Sone story, Terry, thank you. Some things are more important than the materialistic things that fill our lives.
LE - aka John
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(21-08-2018, 11:09 AM)Leicester Exile Wrote: Sone story, Terry, thank you. Some things are more important than the materialistic things that fill our lives.

Got something in my eye.....a lovely story.
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#55
I see that Notts were originally seeking to charge £10 admission for today, with no refunds. 
Fortunately, they now seem to have seen sense and admission is free for a "day" of cricket that might last just one ball.
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#56
I saw Jack Leach take 8 wickets today. I've not previously been totally convinced by Leach as, whilst being a consistent wicket taker, he didn't look like a top class spinner. Well he does now, he was mightily impressive.

With Moeen Ali also back in form, Adil Rashid's place as spinner must be in doubt for the next Test.
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(22-08-2018, 05:09 PM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: I saw Jack Leach take 8 wickets today. I've not previously been totally convinced by Leach as, whilst being a consistent wicket taker, he didn't look like a top class spinner. Well he does now, he was mightily impressive.

With Moeen Ali also back in form, Adil Rashid's place as spinner must be in doubt for the next Test.

I was at Taunton yesterday and saw the first part of Jack Leach's performance. 
I agree that he looked to be a really good bowler, well ahead of Dom Bess. 
Just as Josh Poysden lost out with the Bears partly because he wasn't much of a batter, the same may apply to Leach compared with Rashid and Moeen.
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#58
I see Woakes is out of the Test. What a shock that is. What is it about England that makes Warwickshire players get injured. It doesn't happen when they play for, England then nick them off us and get them injured and we hardly ever see them. It has even happened when the selectors have chosen them for Lions games to look at them and they've come back with all sorts of things. That's why I hate it when any of our blokes are picked for England as they will hardly be seen by us and come back completely ******. Hope they keep their hands off Brookes and Stone. I love to see England do well - Preferably with non- Warwickshire players.
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#59
Another shambolic batting performance, another rescue job by one of the bowlers, another failure to pass 300.

You don't have to try and hit every ball out the park.
Bears fan, Wolves fan, blood red Socialist, a not so vital statistician...
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#60
It can't be easy to act as a selector when the raw material just isn't there. As Steve James said in The Times, there are a lot of square pegs in round holes at present. I think the basic problem is the lack of any reliable openers. If we had any, we could pick three with Root to bat at 4, a batsman (maybe Pope, maybe Bell) at 5, Stokes, Bairstow, Moeen or Leach, Woakes or Curran, Broad & Anderson. That would be a coherent side but with nobody convincing to bat in the top three it all falls apart.

Are there any credible openers out there that haven't already been tried and failed? They'll be coming for Will Rhodes soon.
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