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New T20 Competition
#41
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.
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(22-04-2018, 06:07 PM)stingray Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.

....at the same time as they dismantle the women’s T20 league! You couldn’t make it up!!
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(22-04-2018, 06:07 PM)stingray Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.

Surely the mums should be at home cooking their husbands' dinners, not gallivanting about at cricket matches.
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#44
Andrew Strauss , the man who as a cricketer most people would have a lot of respect for him. having a very good career in the game, fast turning into a man who is losing respect very fast, and doesn't know what he is saying or doing. George Dobell has had a couple of pops at him in the last few months.
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(22-04-2018, 06:35 PM)Terry Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 06:07 PM)stingray Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.

Surely the mums should be at home cooking their husbands' dinners, not gallivanting about at cricket matches.

Sadly Terry those days have gone, maybe it's women not the ecb that have ruined the great game - they need putting in their place once and for all
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#46
Look forward to the banter next saturday with you and Marina NS
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#47
Bring it on, what do they know about cricket anyway?!
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#48
(22-04-2018, 06:35 PM)Terry Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 06:07 PM)stingray Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.

Surely the mums should be at home cooking their husbands' dinners, not gallivanting about at cricket matches.

Quite agree - it's why their feet are smaller than men's - they can stand closer to the oven and the sink.
LE - aka John
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(22-04-2018, 09:36 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 06:35 PM)Terry Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 06:07 PM)stingray Wrote:
(22-04-2018, 03:42 PM)narsty simon Wrote: The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the economic to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further

Strauss has said the new 100 ball formula is designed for mums and kids to make it as simple as possible. Patronising git. Dumb everything down to the lowest possible denominator why don’t you.

Surely the mums should be at home cooking their husbands' dinners, not gallivanting about at cricket matches.

Quite agree - it's why their feet are smaller than men's - they can stand closer to the oven and the sink.

Talking of ovens I hope Marina is slaving over hers and baking us a cake for next Saturday!
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#50
Player power comes into the picture:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/a...p_Facebook
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#51
A female viewpoint:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cric...19451.html
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#52
Meanwhile, the Guardian says:
The ECB are "trying to sell cricket to people who don’t like it, when they can’t even satisfy the people who do."
So we have "The Hundred, an idea no one in cricket likes, and no one outside cricket knows they want. Harrison and Strauss have so little faith in their own sport they don’t believe it’s fit for purpose, so little respect for their own fans they are sure they can afford to upset them, and so little regard for the general public they believe they can flog them cricket for idiots."
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#53
How Srauss is selling the idea in a patronising way to women and kids could come back to haunt him. A bit off a gaff don't you think. Our chairman has done 2/3 of those over the past 3/4 years, and is now helping to organise the new compition makes you wonder haha.
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#54
T20 works well over the last two decades... My mates and colleagues, both male and female enjoy it. I don't really see what needs changing... Except there needs to be more. A league across the season open to minor counties too.... and a franchise competition in August. I would go for 12 red ball counties and scrap 50 overs.
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#55
I respected Strauss as a player- he served England with distinction as captain and player, but I am struggling to think how he could have made a bigger mess of his current position. Every utterance he makes to the press seems to become more and more distant from anything approaching a reasoned, sensible position. His condescending statement about Mum's and Kids is the latest in a long line of drivel; the quote shared by Terry neatly sums up the situation.

Meanwhile, Alistair Cook voices his opinion:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43881449
Bears fan, Wolves fan, blood red Socialist, a not so vital statistician...
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#56
(24-04-2018, 06:20 PM)Warleybear Wrote: T20 works well over the last two decades... My mates and colleagues, both male and female enjoy it. I don't really see what needs changing... Except there needs to be more. A league across the season open to minor counties too.... and a franchise competition in August.  I would go for 12 red ball counties and scrap 50 overs.

We do NOT need more T20. Remember the old show biz saying - 2Leave the audience wanting more". If you saturate the season with T20 the public will quickly grow tired of the repetition and the expense. Quality before Quantity
LE - aka John
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#57
I agree that Andrew Strauss got it all wrong when he said that the ECB were trying to introduce a form of the game so simple that even children and women could understand it.
If he thinks that children are incapable of understanding all but the simplest of games, he should try to understand the on-line games that children master with ease and that are totally beyond my comprehension. I will leave women to speak in their own defence.
I also think that seeking simplicity in a game to be played by highly skilled professional cricketers is an exercise in futility.  Like nature, cricketers abhor a vacuum.  Give them a totally simple format and, after maybe the first few games, they will fill it with a whole set of tactics, ploys and strategies. 
That is what has happened with T20, which was originally envisioned as a simplified version of the game, to be played as an accompaniment to bouncy castles, paddling pools and other diversions.  Now we have T20 games that take over 4 hours to complete as bowlers and captains (and anyone else who feels inclined to join in) contemplate before each delivery where the ball should be bowled, what field settings to have and (possibly) what sledging will be most effective.
If it is the case (as has been floated) that the final ten balls of the 100 ball competition can be split between three bowlers, just think of all the decisions to be made there and how long that "over" may take.  Good luck to those tuning in for the 9.00 pm BBC programme, only to witness a player huddle as the West Midland Warriors decide who is to bowl the fourth ball out of ten or maybe whether they should call for a strategic time-out.
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#58
Excellent post, Terry. If we can all see these pitfalls why oh why can't the administrators of the game see them too? If only they would spend less time looking at which critic to sue.
LE - aka John
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#59
I remain unconvinced by this new format, but you make some really good points Terry.

I think the reason the ECB don't see these issues is they've become disconnected echo chambers, disconnected from the public and even the players.
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#60
Vic Marks has his say:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2...n-days-t20
The fact that he and I are saying roughly the same thing (though he expresses it far more elegantly than me) only goes to show what a pair of out-of-touch old fogies we are.
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