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New T20 Competition
#21
Every bears cricketer I have spoken, young and older,
would rather win the cc than the T20 slog OHD summed up the skill levels, he said KandD would never beat Warwickshire on a proper game but could, on a given day, beat Birmingham in the slog
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#22
Warley your prediction is based on assumptions.

You assume the general public will continue to support T20 in large numbers. Personally I think a large percentage of T20 followers will start to get bored with its predictability and will find the saturation level too costly and will drift away to the next "quick fix" night out.

Test Matches in the UK has a large following creating revenue spread over 3, 4 and sometimes 5 days as apposed to T20's revenue spread over 3 hours! If the 4 day game disappears then so does test matches.
LE - aka John
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#23
Sadly LE I think the 4day game, if not disappearing all together will continue to decrease - the ecb, along with WB don't like it, I agree with you, the slog has a shelf life but the powers that be are too blind to see it
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#24
Oh good, and now it’s only going to be 100 balls long, with a ‘super’ last over of ten deliveries!
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#25
WT actual F?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...ompetition
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#26
Well I'll go for the "completely bonkers" option. Why not just go for nine innings of three wickets each and have done with it.
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#27
Why not go the whole hog and dispense with the bowlers and compel each side to field 11 batsmen; the balls can be delivered by an automated machine, with batsmen trying to slog the ball out the ground each ball. Fielders can be dispensed with as only boundaries will count and to speed the process up the bowling machine will have a feed of 100 balls for the innings.

More big hits! More boundaries! None of that boring waiting around between deliveries!

Whilst my suggestion may be utterly ridiculous, its not much worse than what the ECB are proposing; at what point do we stop calling it cricket?
Bears fan, Wolves fan, blood red Socialist, a not so vital statistician...
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#28
Randombear - that is a brilliant idea - you must contact the ECB tonight and put forward that suggestion. Large bins could be placed around the boundary all with additional runs added to the six if the ball lands in them.

As the saying goes - you couldn't make it up.
LE - aka John
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#29
I just love the idea that somebody at the ECB looked at T20 and thought "Well, more people would watch it if only it was 3 and a half overs shorter!"
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#30
Warleybear will be delighted it will make T20 almost look like proper cricket
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#31
The problem is that the ECB view is that those of us who are existing cricket fans are not the target market.  They are aiming at all those people who don't watch cricket so when they tell us that those people will absolutely love what they are offering, who are we to know differently?
And what, they may add, would a boring old has-been like Vic Marks know about anything?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/a...ampionship
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#32
I personally think we are less than 10 years away from there being a great split in cricket, with the First Class game and the limited overs game being independent from each other. Personally speaking as long as First Class and Test Cricket are kept going I don't care what the latest slog fest is called and whether it is Warwickshire v Lancashire at Edgbaston or Birmingham Bears v Manchester Mad Men at the Brummie Bowl- I know which format of cricket I will watch as long as it still going.
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#33
(19-04-2018, 09:33 PM)Terry Wrote: The problem is that the ECB view is that those of us who are existing cricket fans are not the target market.  They are aiming at all those people who don't watch cricket so when they tell us that those people will absolutely love what they are offering, who are we to know differently?
And what, they may add, would a boring old has-been like Vic Marks know about anything?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/a...ampionship
What other sport changes rules and regulations and brings in daft gimmicks to attract non followers?, Proper cricket is unique, it will never appeal to the masses - never has, is that good reason to dispense with it?
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#34
This is quite a balanced view from George:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...her-or-not
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#35
I thought George's article certainly gave a clear ECB version of the thinking behind it. I hope it was not influenced by past recent events.

No need to change the T20 format to fit in to TV schedules. Make teams bowl 16 overs an hour = 1hr 15min per innings plus 15 minute break and it fits comfortably in to a 3 hour slot (6pm to 9pm)
LE - aka John
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#36
I'm a fan of t20, but also of 50 over and first class cricket.

I think it is arrogant to assume you can't be a fan of all forms of cricket without being an old retired man or a young boozy football hooligan.

I'm personally not convinced by the idea of this new format, I'd have preferred if they just tried to focus on the current t20 tournament instead of congesting the fixture list further by adding another competition.

I'm not sure however that is enough to encourage the wider public to be interested in cricket.
The Bowler's Holding the batsman's Willey
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#37
(20-04-2018, 01:10 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote: No need to change the T20 format to fit in to TV schedules. Make teams bowl 16 overs an hour = 1hr 15min per innings plus 15 minute break and it fits comfortably in to a 3 hour slot (6pm to 9pm)

Correct... After nearly two decades of T20, the players should have got a hang of it by now.
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#38
(20-04-2018, 01:21 PM)Bloomy Wrote: I'm a fan of t20, but also of 50 over and first class cricket.

I think it is arrogant to assume you can't be a fan of all forms of cricket without being an old retired man or a young boozy football hooligan.

I'm personally not convinced by the idea of this new format, I'd have preferred if they just tried to focus on the current t20 tournament instead of congesting the fixture list further by adding another competition.

I'm not sure however that is enough to encourage the wider public to be interested in cricket.

Well said Bloomy; I like cricket, be it First Class, List A or T20. I have watched all formats for nearly 25 years (Which whilst I agree is nowhere near as long as many Bears fans is still a significant amount of time) and personally speaking my favourite format, by a mile, is Test or First Class cricket. However if the choice was no cricket or T20 then T20 would win every time.

My concern with the ECB is that they only seem to give a damn about T20. Little is done to promote other formats of the game and the scheduling of the County Championship seems to actively discourage all but the most dedicated or those with time on their hands. I am fortunate in that my job is shift based, so I can see cricket on days that are work days for most of the population. How many Saturdays are devoid of cricket each summer? Surely Friday, Saturday and Sunday should see cricket scheduled as a priority, yet too often they are free days when people could potentially attend.
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#39
Totally agree... Too many weekends without cricket of any format.... There should be cricket on Saturdays. Doing it occasionally, hardley encourages regular attendances.
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#40
The lack of championship cricket in summer is a deliberatel ploy by the ecb to keep members away, lack of support gives them, they believe, the excuse to reduce it further
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