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Coaching changes
#1
Report on Cricinfo

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...relegation

Very disappointing that Chris Armstrong is being fired, he was a massive improvement over his predecessor in the role, was highly qualified and was trusted & respected by the players.
While Robert may be bad, Robert is not all Mugabe's.
There are GOOD Mugabe's
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#2
Not surprised Richardson has also gone. He really has not brought anything to WCCC in the time here
LE - aka John
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#3
Neil Snowball did indicate in his interview with me that he was going to do a post-season review of the coaching structure so I am not totally surprised.
I interviewed Alan Richardson when he took up his post and he came across as a very wholehearted and sincere guy but how effective he has been in his work with the bowlers is less clear.
George's article points out that Ashley is no-one's idea of a soft touch. He will know that if he doesn't get things right, his head will be on the block.  Neil Snowball, too, is a very amiable guy when you talk to him; but I have no doubt that he is tough enough to take whatever actions he feels necessary to ensure that his time at Edgbaston is seen as successful.  This would be true if the commercial side wasn't delivering its targets or if anyone else was under-performing.
Graeme Welch has a proven reputation as a bowling coach, though his return would hardly dispel the idea that there is an old-boys network in operation.
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#4
GD makes reference to the poor bowling stats this season in connection with Richardson's departure. On that basis Frost's position must be under serious threat.

As for Welch - I think the old-boys network can be argued against on the basis the bowling stats were pretty good under his tenure (I believe).
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#5
Top bowling coach is Graeme Welch but would it be wise to bring another former old boy back
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#6
Hardly any of our coaching staff have any experience in the job before their appointment. Because they have had half decent playing careers does not automatically qualify them as suitable coaches. Warwickshire as a top club should only use people who have a track record in the role they are to occupy. Our record of bringing players through our system and into first class cricket shows clearly something is lacking somewhere.
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#7
Sounds as though Chris Armstrong might be unlucky. But there's obviously more to his removal than we are aware of.

Alan Richardson's position was obviously precarious given the toothless performance of our fast bowlers over the last couple of seasons.

Surprised to see Tony Frost is still in post - that may still be under discussion.

Although I must admit I find GD's surprise at these changes somewhat puzzling.

Contrary to what he is arguing I think the club (and members and supporters) have been remarkably patient with the coaching staff during a long period of decline and under-performance in 4 day cricket.

And although I am a big fan of Graeme Welch -  like others, I think we need to move on from the "old boy's club" mentality.
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#8
I didn't notice it in George's article first time round - maybe it's been amended - but he does say "at least two members of the backroom staff".  He may just be hedging his bets there or possibly there could be others on their way out.
I presume that George's article has caught the club on the hop but that a press release will follow.
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#9
Whilst I never take pleasure in seeing someone lose their job, I do agree with those saying the bowling has been declining in standards the past few years and the number of injuries our bowlers picked up did seem high (although without paying too much attention to our rivals I couldn’t compare). I agree also that I’m surprised nothing (yet) has happened on the batting front because that is where our problems have been laid bare! One would expect something to happen.
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#10
No announcement yet from the Club so at the moment, we are relying on one report (from George who normally knows what is going on).
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#11
(22-10-2017, 09:13 AM)Terry Wrote: No announcement yet from the Club so at the moment, we are relying on one report (from George who normally knows what is going on).

As the club has not said that the article is mistaken it seems to me it is safe to assume George is correct, unless they are not aware of it!
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#12
(22-10-2017, 07:48 PM)parkfield bear Wrote:
(22-10-2017, 09:13 AM)Terry Wrote: No announcement yet from the Club so at the moment, we are relying on one report (from George who normally knows what is going on).

As the club has not said that the article is mistaken it seems to me it is safe to assume George is correct, unless they are not aware of it!

Yes, I agree - that's a reasonable assumption.  I'd be surprised if they didn't know about George's article.  Maybe severance terms are still being negotiated.
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#13
Statement from the Club:

Warwickshire County Cricket Club has announced that Alan Richardson has left the club by mutual consent.
Alan joined Warwickshire as bowling coach in January 2014 at the end of a long and successful playing career which included spells with the Bears and Middlesex before arriving at New Road, Worcestershire
During his four seasons as bowling coach at Edgbaston, Richardson has been part of a squad and coaching group that has enjoyed continued success.
Ashley Giles, Sport Director at Warwickshire said: "We would like to thank Richo for his contribution to the club over the last four years. He is an extremely popular member of staff and has been part of a coaching team that has enjoyed success in the Natwest T20 Blast in 2014 and Royal London One Day Cup in 2016 and we wish him the very best as he moves on to his next challenge".
Alan Richardson said “I would like to thank all the players, staff and members for their support during my time back at the Club. It has been an experience I’ll never forget and to have reached two Lord's finals and three T20 finals days in four seasons makes it all the more memorable. I wish everyone involved with Warwickshire all the best for the future”
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#14
And a slightly different angle on it:
https://warwickshireccc.com/news/bears-b...structure/
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#15
....and my take on it:
http://deepextracover.com/2017/10/alan-r...wickshire/
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(24-10-2017, 03:49 PM)Terry Wrote: ....and my take on it:
http://deepextracover.com/2017/10/alan-r...wickshire/

Very good, as ever, Terry.  I would pick up on your point about 'Pop' Welch though.  While I agree, 'the old boys network' should not be encouraged, I do think the key consideration should be the best man for the job.  In the case of Bowling Coach (or even a Joint First Team Coach with Jim T - which I think could be considered), 'Pop' IS the best man, for me.  His record (with us, Essex, Derby and now Leicester) is outstanding and if the vacancy for First Team Coach hadn't come up (when they preferred Dougie B), he would probably still be with the Bears.
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#17
Interesting that the reports all mention the successes in one day competitions. Yes, it's probably just face saving but it does prompt the thought that a bowling coach who can teach people how to hide the ball or bowl "variations" won't necessarily be the same guy who can teach how to take wickets. Do we need two bowling coaches, one for red ball and one for white?
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(24-10-2017, 06:08 PM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: Interesting that the reports all mention the successes in one day competitions. Yes, it's probably just face saving but it does prompt the thought that a bowling coach who can teach people how to hide the ball or bowl "variations" won't necessarily be the same guy who can teach how to take wickets. Do we need two bowling coaches, one for red ball and one for white?

.... and another for pink?
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#19
Have had it on good authority tonight that Graeme Welch ISreturning as bowling coach
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#20
(24-10-2017, 10:56 PM)narsty simon Wrote: Have had it on good authority tonight that Graeme Welch ISreturning as bowling coach

Great news.  As I say above, I'd appoint him as Joint First Team Coach with Jim - with him responsible for Bowling and Jim dealing with Batting.  I think, given how experienced Pop now is, he deserves something more than just Bowling Coach.
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