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Commonwealth Games
#1
Interesting possibility that Edgbaston may feature cricket at the Commonwealth Games:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/cont...MP=OTC-RSS
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#2
Excellent... T20 would be excellent in the Commonwealth and Olympuc games...
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(28-04-2017, 11:01 PM)Warleybear Wrote: Excellent... T20 would be excellent in the Commonwealth and Olympuc games...

Yeah great for WB.

That'll be an extra half dozen T20s for him to watch alongside the Blast and the MegaCity Monstification.

Better order your foam finger and your new baseball cap now WB.
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#4
I think that most people would feel that the expansion of the game around the world should be encouraged..... the closed shop of test cricket is probably not the vehicle to that. Putting cricket into the Olympics and Commonwealth games should be encouraged... the game needs to be seen as a global sport. Sadly it would seem that some just want the game to gently fade away. Embrace T20 and a number of younger supporters will follow the longer format in a couple of decades time. Surrey embraced T20 and are seeing the results. The early 2000's cohort of T20 followers are now expanding Surreys membership....

T20 is the future - embrace it.
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(03-05-2017, 07:36 AM)Warleybear Wrote: Embrace T20 and a number of younger supporters will follow the longer format in a couple of decades time. Surrey embraced T20 and are seeing the results. The early 2000's cohort of T20 followers are now expanding Surreys membership....

T20 is the future - embrace it.

So where are the 1000's of new members at Edgbaston then?

Surrey are in a unique situation. They are in by far the richest city in the country and on the doorstep of the richest part of the richest city. They have also negotiated some very favourable terms for international staging over the last 10 years.

I know for a fact from when I worked on a trading floor down there that a lot of their memberships are sold in bulk to City firms and are barely used from one week to the next. They're just a conduit through which said companies can get international tickets for their corporate customers and to treat their own guys to a T20 night out every now and then. Given that Lords is a closed shop it's not surprising to see the Oval sucking up any spare cash.

That's not a problem to me - good luck to Surrey.

But highlighting their model as an example is akin to comparing apples with pears.
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#6
So is membership at Edgbaston rapidly declining, increasing or holding steady over the last 5 to 10 years?
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(03-05-2017, 08:59 PM)Warleybear Wrote: So is membership at Edgbaston rapidly declining, increasing or holding steady over the last 5 to 10 years?

Declining rapidly.

I know 2 long-term members who have not renewed this year for pretty much the same reasons all the others in my group who have departed.

The marginalisation of 4 day cricket means they can't get to watch - and neither do they fancy what is available if it means being wrapped up in 4 layers of clothing.

The RLC 50 overs is being played in a block with few weekend games available.

Which means that they're left with your favourite plus-sized competition.

Warley - we have had this conversation so many times I am getting tired. The ECB's mismanagement of the domestic schedule over the last 20 years has cannibalised the audience.

40 overs to 50 overs to 45 overs to 40 overs to abolition. Wednesday starts in the championship leaving most Saturdays cricket free. Floodlit weekday games replacing weekend 1 day cricket. 3 home T20s in a week. Weekend after weekend and most bank holidays in high summer without any cricket being played - because some genius marketing survey said club players can't get to watch on weekends. Lords finals played in late September in a nice autumn mist....

Then we had the international grounds arms race instigated by David Morgan around 2003 which proliferated the amount of international cricket. So casual punters spend their money on one ODI or a day at the test  rather than coming to a few days of county cricket through the summer.

At the same time county members have been left with slim pickings unless they're mad for T20. It's little surprise interest has fallen away.

And say T20 does attract new members - what exactly are they going to watch other than T20? The 4 day game is going to be played mainly in April and September and the 50 over competition will be involve principally 2nd string players running concurrently with the new city competition.

Of course this won't matter to you T20 die-hards. Personally, given their record, I wouldn't trust the ECB to run a bath.

But you seem to imagine they've hit on the greatest idea since someone thought of toasting bread on an open fire.
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#8
Brilliant post Dave C unfortunately wasted on WB
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I dividee the cost of membership by the number of days watching cricket and the cost per day is now too high with family and work comitments. Memberships may be ok for people with time on their hands, but inflation meant that 20 years ago I took out membership without thinking about it... now I do. My family have gone from 2 adult and 2 junior memberships plus attending all international matches to T20 season tickets and some big matches. My three days at the test match this year is roughly the cost of attending all four days of a championship match in early April. Ad hoc supporters arent encouraged... Three T20 home games in a week were an own goal... Pay at the gate prices for the four day game can be steep when food and travel are included. People become distant from the four day game, so with each winter that passes the older members with cheap memberships will gently fade away not to be replaced as T20 supporters who are put off by the culture of the 'purists'. I believe that there should only be two formats... four day and T20 cricket... both played across the season from April to September. The second division needs reviewing.

There are lots of problems with the availability, structure and finances of the game at the moment..... and sadly I fear that the $h1t and the fan are likely to soon collide.
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#10
No wonder you sit alone in the Hollies you really are a depressing person, get yourself down to Taunton on the 19th, smile, have3wild nights out with some happy bears & live a little
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#11
Hmmm.... I thought change was exciting and not depressing... but each to their own. :-) LOL

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source...HVlpRUPM1g
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#12
This is disappointing:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/mid...s-13481160
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#13
More than disappointing..... you really couldn't make it up for what is msotly a Commonwealth sport.

What is the point of the commonwealth game... especially without innovation....
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#14
Confirmation that cricket is not included:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/s...19241.html
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#15
Hmmmm ..... the game shooting itself in the foot... cricket is a commonwealth sport mostly... a real shame.
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#16
No cricket - but at least Birmingham is getting the Games:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/42423309
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Yes - and the city has to find £750m of it's own to stage them.

I suspect us poor BCC council taxpayers will be be getting a few more inflation-busting precepts added to our bills over the next few years.

The current administration are a total shambles - as the story below shows. I've little confidence that this will be delivered successfully within budget.

In fact we are looking long-term to move outside the city boundary because we're so fed up with the extortionate council tax.


http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/mid...l-14057542
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#18
Tongue-in-Cheek reasons why Birmingham doesn't want the Games:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/mid...m-14067538
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(21-12-2017, 04:26 PM)Terry Wrote: Tongue-in-Cheek reasons why Birmingham doesn't want the Games:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/mid...m-14067538


Tongue-in-cheek or not I have grave doubts about the ability of this shambolic administration to deliver anything.

Their farcical handling and resolution of the bin dispute ended in total capitulation and a bill for £6.5m.

It's little more than a vanity project for local politicians of every stripe and - as usual - no voter was ever consulted.

Dreadful decision to spend a fortune on what is little more than an international school sports event to Birmingham.
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#20
Get off the fence Dave and tell us how you really feel   Tongue
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