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The Future of County Cricket
A further reduction in red ball cricket - absolute disgrace.
When will our masters realise the season is too short to fit in all they want?

There is some merit in the argument for conference system although I too like the league system.
LE - aka John
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(17-04-2018, 11:12 AM)adickinson Wrote: I would be interested how the 'Franchise' Competition will be offered to existing County members in terms of their membership deals.

I suspect it won't be part of it... Anyone wiill be able to buy a membership for that particular competition.

It is time for memberships to be split in two as anyway... Red ball and white ball. You buy what you want.... If you want both then you buy both. Each getting half a members rights vote

As for red ball cricket... There needs to be major structural changes.... There are too many counties just there to serve the public school system rather than producing skilled yet combatative players for England who are up for the fight. Less counties... but teams playing across the year with regular games.
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Healthy attendances reported up and down the country@ the last round of matches, people still want proper cricket!
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This looks like a positive development:
https://warwickshireccc.com/news/working...20-vision/
Ashley should be a voice of good sense; and Wasim Khan, as well as being an ex-Bear, has a solid cricketing background both with Leicestershire and with Chance to Shine.
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The most important thing to fix about Championship cricket is to get it played at the right time of year. The ECB's orthodoxy seems to be that the new franchise competition comes first and nothing can be allowed to compete with it. Hence red ball cricket played in the winter to nobody's satisfaction. There was a sensible article by Atherton yesterday arguing that there is no reason why Championship cricket couldn't be played at the same time as the donkey slog. The audiences are different; much fewer than half of county professionals are likely to be signed up to franchises; better weather makes for better cricket. Championship cricket in high summer again, please.

Are you listening Ashley?
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Yes, I agree that the Mike Atherton article contained a lot of sense.
I spent a bit of time at Taunton last weekend where, with the weather doing its best to replicate summer conditions, there was a good crowd and some keenly contested cricket.  More rather than less of the same (and during the genuine summer time) would be great.
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I too hope Ashley looks in on this forum of genuine cricket and Warwickshire supporters. 4 day County Cricket HAS to be played throughout the season and not just in the spring and autumn. And that is not just for the benefit of the spectator it is also for the benefit of the players giving them the chance to widen their skills which in turn benefits the England test team.
LE - aka John
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The latest hint that the ecb don't like proper cricket is proved in the fixture list:1st3rounds Friday starts, round 4Thursday start, finish Sunday =no cricket Bank Holiday Monday, week 5revert to Friday start!!
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T20 finals day is virtually on its way to October... so it's not just four day cricket that suffers given the season has historically started in April.

The answer is to have a dozen red ball counties playing across the season....a testing super league. The others would be white ball only where the money is and where they can be more competitive. I would then have two T20 competitions .... One that includes the minor counties. There is an argument to scrap domestic 50 over cricket.

As someone who has regularly watched championship cricket since 1977, it is clear the current 18 county model can't continue in its exhisting format. No change will mean forced change.... and change is coming. The problem is that I see no solutions only a maintain the status quo view to keep back the tide of change.
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(30-03-2018, 09:55 AM)DaveC Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 06:56 AM)narsty simon Wrote: What a sorry mess men's cricket has got itself into!!

I've written to our CEO this morning asking whether he supports the ECB in this matter and if so on what grounds.

If this plays out in Graves and the ECB's favour then that will be the end for me. I'll find something else to do in the summer.

(27-04-2018, 10:23 AM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: The most important thing to fix about Championship cricket is to get it played at the right time of year. The ECB's orthodoxy seems to be that the new franchise competition comes first and nothing can be allowed to compete with it. Hence red ball cricket played in the winter to nobody's satisfaction. There was a sensible article by Atherton yesterday arguing that there is no reason why Championship cricket couldn't be played at the same time as the donkey slog. The audiences are different; much fewer than half of county professionals are likely to be signed up to franchises; better weather makes for better cricket. Championship cricket in high summer again, please.

Are you listening Ashley?

This has to be a sensible compromise. It begins when they end promotion and relegation so that all 18 counties have a chance to win the title and none of them are put in relegation trouble when they lose players to the 100 over EPL slogathon thingy. Counties will be aware at season's start which players have been drafted to the EPL so can utilise squad players for the summer matches. Needs to be minimum 15 games per season ideally 16 so that games are spread throughout the summer. It is utter madness that Headingley has no red ball county cricket now until September.

Given time, the counties might see an appetite for a 40 over Sunday League style competition again too.

Evolution will continue but we need sensible thinking to prevail and not leave wide spaces in the schedule for the mickey mouse version of the game
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What about returning to a three day one division championship... If it's a draw there is a T20 game at the end to give five bonus points?
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Once again proper cricket shows what a great format it is, Yorkshire skittled for 50first knock, win the game - just couldn't happen in the pyjama slog
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Its only the fifth time ever... So it's not frequent.... But yes, a great result for Yorkshire.

Moving forward... it is now time to split the membership... Red ball, T20 or both.... Win, win for all concerned. With WCCCs membership probably now down to 6,000 (???) - and how many of them pay reduced fees, its now time to reinvigorate it. Those many thousands of Birmingham Bears supporters who help fund the club need to be included and given a say.
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Graves has had yet more to say on the new competition:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...ed-cricket

Surely if T20 cricket is too long for some people then maybe it's the case that cricket just isn't the sport for them?
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Exactly, it's complexity is its attraction to those that get, don't bring in daft rules and gimmicks just to please the chavs
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WB Those many thousands of supporters of Birmingham Bears are, I bet, simply WARWICKSHIRE supporters. As I asked a few days ago - do you hear chants of Birmingham La La La or is it Warwickshire La La La. It is only to appease the Council that the name was changed to Birmingham.

Also I would say for every person attending because they want to support a BIRMINGHAM team there will be at least one from Nuneaton, Coventry, Leamington etc who do not go because they have no affiliation to the City.
LE - aka John
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(15-05-2018, 02:45 PM)Exiled Bear Wrote: Graves has had yet more to say on the new competition:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...ed-cricket

Surely if T20 cricket is too long for some people then maybe it's the case that cricket just isn't the sport for them?

Every time Graves opens his mouth he gives more justification to George Dobell's arguments. He seems to be living in a different world to everyone else.
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The sting is in the tail here:
https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/mens-co...first-time
"The Working Group will not be considering the new competition itself" - obviously because there's too many people like Ashley on that group who know a lot about the game and would come up with sensible ideas.  So best keep them away from The Hundred
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I smell another writ in the air:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2...SApp_Other
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Hasn't anybody told these kids and mums that they don't like or understand cricket?
https://www.kiaoval.com/main-news/sold-o...ey-v-kent/
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