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The Future of County Cricket
(30-03-2018, 12:05 PM)Terry Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 11:42 AM)Reabank Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 10:36 AM)Terry Wrote: I hope that George is getting full support from his employers, ESPN (and ultimately Disney).
There is a big difference between taking on a lone journalist and going head-to-head with the Mouse House.
My understanding is cricinfo tries to stay independent of ESPN and cricinfo must value George.  But if it goes up the line I can't help thinking someone will say, why do we run articles on the ECB that get us sued (in the UK a bad place to be sued for libel) when a piece on Virat Kohli's favourite colour gets far more readers?
My bit on Glamorgan and their and their 2017 accounts is here
RB

That's an interesting take on the Glamorgan situation. Message from the ECB: Mr Graves will see you in court!

It would obviously be fascinaing to read the "letter of claim" from the ECB's lawyers.  What exactly is the defamation that they are claiming? Is it specifically Graves who has allegedly been defamed or the the ECB as a body?
Thanks Terry, No lawyer's letter as yet but maybe they are working through an Easter back log.  I got a reply from my email to Neil Snowball asking him to save the Dobell 1 where he described the case as a matter between the ECB and ESPN (Warwickshire are doing nothing).  But a George article has "gone missing" from the cricinfo site titled "of feuds and feudalism" and was a summary of Grave's chairmanship to date, including some praise and quite a lot of trenchant criticism.  Given recent events at the ECB interesting to know if the board approved the legal action against ESPN/Disney.
RB
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(03-04-2018, 08:12 PM)Reabank Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 12:05 PM)Terry Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 11:42 AM)Reabank Wrote:
(30-03-2018, 10:36 AM)Terry Wrote: I hope that George is getting full support from his employers, ESPN (and ultimately Disney).
There is a big difference between taking on a lone journalist and going head-to-head with the Mouse House.
My understanding is cricinfo tries to stay independent of ESPN and cricinfo must value George.  But if it goes up the line I can't help thinking someone will say, why do we run articles on the ECB that get us sued (in the UK a bad place to be sued for libel) when a piece on Virat Kohli's favourite colour gets far more readers?
My bit on Glamorgan and their and their 2017 accounts is here
RB

That's an interesting take on the Glamorgan situation. Message from the ECB: Mr Graves will see you in court!

It would obviously be fascinaing to read the "letter of claim" from the ECB's lawyers.  What exactly is the defamation that they are claiming? Is it specifically Graves who has allegedly been defamed or the the ECB as a body?
Thanks Terry, No lawyer's letter as yet but maybe they are working through an Easter back log.  I got a reply from my email to Neil Snowball asking him to save the Dobell 1 where he described the case as a matter between the ECB and ESPN (Warwickshire are doing nothing).  But a George article has "gone missing" from the cricinfo site titled "of feuds and feudalism" and was a summary of Grave's chairmanship to date, including some praise and quite a lot of trenchant criticism.  Given recent events at the ECB interesting to know if the board approved the legal action against ESPN/Disney.
RB

Yes everything has gone quiet.
I'm not sure if George will be at the Warwickshire media day on Thursday; but if so, I will ask him for an update. Of course, he may not want to say anything or just speak to me in confidence but if there's anything I can pass on I will.
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Sensible words from an Australian (yes, really!):
http://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/domes...inder.html
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Yes Terry a real surprise and oh how we agree with him
LE - aka John
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Private Eye have picked up the George Dobell libel story:


https://mobile.twitter.com/Tregaskis1/st...5913098241
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The final paragraph shows the ECB are an absolute disgrace.

Oops - don't divulge my identity to their lawyers, please.
LE - aka John
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I agree that the ECB and Mr Graves have brought ridicule on themselves over this. 
Far more people will read the Private Eye piece than George's original articles.  All the ECB have done is drawn attention to the situation and made themselves appear thin-skinned and lacking in judgement.
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Vic Marks gets it right when he says in the Guardian:

"There is some bewilderment out there as the ECB seems inclined to keep offering handouts to counties for not hosting Test cricket and for voting in favour of a T20 competition that is much more attractive to TV executives than the real fans. In the meantime it is prepared to underwrite the costs of the threatened libel suit of its chairman, Colin Graves, against Cricinfo, which is, perversely, one of the outlets seeking to give domestic cricket in England a high profile."
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It will be interesting to see the outcome of this meeting and whether the ECB will take any note:
http://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/secon...aches.html
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I wonder why three counties are not represented and the reason why.
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(08-04-2018, 06:14 PM)Leicester Exile Wrote: I wonder why three counties are not represented and the reason why.

Perhaps the triumvirate have been excluded!!
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(08-04-2018, 01:54 PM)Terry Wrote: I agree that the ECB and Mr Graves have brought ridicule on themselves over this. 
Far more people will read the Private Eye piece than George's original articles.  All the ECB have done is drawn attention to the situation and made themselves appear thin-skinned and lacking in judgement.

Don't know where it came from but suddenly remembered today that one of my favourite literary characters Horace Rumpole had an adversary - a crusty old judge played by the wonderful Robin Bailey in the TV series -  one Judge Gerald Graves.

He was known by Rumpole as Mr Injustice Graves. A suitable epithet for our beloved, litigious ECB chairman perhaps?   Rolleyes
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(09-04-2018, 04:15 PM)DaveC Wrote:
(08-04-2018, 01:54 PM)Terry Wrote: I agree that the ECB and Mr Graves have brought ridicule on themselves over this. 
Far more people will read the Private Eye piece than George's original articles.  All the ECB have done is drawn attention to the situation and made themselves appear thin-skinned and lacking in judgement.

Don't know where it came from but suddenly remembered today that one of my favourite literary characters Horace Rumpole had an adversary - a crusty old judge played by the wonderful Robin Bailey in the TV series -  one Judge Gerald Graves.

He was known by Rumpole as Mr Injustice Graves. A suitable epithet for our beloved, litigious ECB chairman perhaps?  

A dangerous post DaveC - I do hope you have Legal Protection Insurance Rolleyes
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(09-04-2018, 04:15 PM)DaveC Wrote:
(08-04-2018, 01:54 PM)Terry Wrote: I agree that the ECB and Mr Graves have brought ridicule on themselves over this. 
Far more people will read the Private Eye piece than George's original articles.  All the ECB have done is drawn attention to the situation and made themselves appear thin-skinned and lacking in judgement.

Don't know where it came from but suddenly remembered today that one of my favourite literary characters Horace Rumpole had an adversary - a crusty old judge played by the wonderful Robin Bailey in the TV series -  one Judge Gerald Graves.

He was known by Rumpole as Mr Injustice Graves. A suitable epithet for our beloved, litigious ECB chairman perhaps?   Rolleyes

It would be great if Private Eye picked up on that reference.  Of course, I would be the last person to tip them off.
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(09-04-2018, 04:15 PM)DaveC Wrote:
(08-04-2018, 01:54 PM)Terry Wrote: I agree that the ECB and Mr Graves have brought ridicule on themselves over this. 
Far more people will read the Private Eye piece than George's original articles.  All the ECB have done is drawn attention to the situation and made themselves appear thin-skinned and lacking in judgement.

Don't know where it came from but suddenly remembered today that one of my favourite literary characters Horace Rumpole had an adversary - a crusty old judge played by the wonderful Robin Bailey in the TV series -  one Judge Gerald Graves.

He was known by Rumpole as Mr Injustice Graves. A suitable epithet for our beloved, litigious ECB chairman perhaps?   Rolleyes

I have to confess, Dave, that I stole your reference to Mr Injustice Graves and tweeted about it.  Quite a few people gave it a "like" including George; and some of them have re-tweeted it.
Of course, when the legal letter arrives, I will blame you!
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It seems like Essex were the only county not represented at the Directors of Cricket meeting:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018...pensation/
The issue is now being passed to CEOs so, in Warwickshire's case, it's Ashley saying: "Over to you, Mr Snowball".
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Some interesting ideas here:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...-proposals
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Whilst I like the idea of a knock out 50 over competition, with the reduction of County Matches down to 6 home games that could lead to even less games to watch if the team is struggling!

I would be interested how the 'Franchise' Competition will be offered to existing County members in terms of their membership deals.
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Would like to see the present format of 2 divisions stay as it is, i know it's not perfect with div 2 format, but as i say keep 2 divisions. So if they are going to go to a conference style with 12 games, play it May to August, with the present T20 county comp running along side it, but go back to the 3 groups so only play 10 games. Start the season in April with your knockout comp, and finish the season with a 40 over league based on how the present 50 over comp is run, in September. May to August period when it's your turn not to play 4 day cricket on that week that's when you could fit in your T20 games.I suppose there are flaws in my idea but a something to debate. Mayby some one on here could come up with a better idea
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50over cricket in April(final in June) cc May through August t20slog early September (final mid September), that won't go down well with anyone on here but don't worry cos it aint happening
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