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The Future of County Cricket
Nice one. As for the "worldwide" criticism the sport that makes me chuckle is American Football and Baseball and its World Series competed by...........Americans
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This is an interesting development:
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/100...nd-cricket
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(07-03-2018, 05:27 PM)Terry Wrote: This is an interesting development:
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/100...nd-cricket

Interesting and depressing at the same time. I've heard Andy Nash speak and would rate him as one of the good guys. For one such as him to quit the ECB in disgust is truly sad. Unfortunately, most of us could have told him a long time ago that the ECB are a shambles.
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Where controversy and county cricket are interlinked, expect to see some trenchant opinions from George:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...y-payments
In particular:
"For too long, deals have been conducted out of sight and scrutiny. For too long, counties have been forced into acquiescence by offers of patronage or fears of retribution."
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To an extent, I would argue that the ECB have made a rod for their own back; they pushed for more Test standard grounds, they argued for clubs to potentially cripple themselves (Durham, Glamorgan needing public loans to be written off) to bid for Tests; the ECB know that having pushed clubs down this path, they almost have to compensate clubs that have done as the board have encouraged and built Test standard grounds but then don't see many Test matches.

With regards to the new T20 tournament, the Cricbuzz article makes a damning accusation:
"Although each first-class county will receive a minimum annual payment of GBP 1.3million from the ECB's new T20 tournament, beginning in 2020, the host venues are set to receive appreciably more, another move which has angered the smaller counties who were originally unaware this was to be the case."

If that is true then the ECB really have behaved disgracefully. Would the counties who had serious concerns about the new competition have given their consent if they knew that this would be the case? I think we all know the answer to that.
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Been meaning to post this since the weekend:

England Lions to be reviewed after mauling by West Indies as concerns grow young stars prefer Twenty20

Not specifically about county cricket but worrying - in a winter when the senior team seem to have entered a decline -  that the next generation is also struggling.

No mention of course of the hollowing out of the county game that's reducing opportunities for English players to hone their skills in the longer form. Just another bleat about processes and set-up.
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(07-03-2018, 06:45 PM)Terry Wrote: Where controversy and county cricket are interlinked, expect to see some trenchant opinions from George:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...y-payments
In particular:
"For too long, deals have been conducted out of sight and scrutiny. For too long, counties have been forced into acquiescence by offers of patronage or fears of retribution."

This would of course be the same ECB that has recently strong-armed our own county into putting into place new rules on more transparent governance on pain of funding cuts?   9898
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(08-03-2018, 10:11 AM)DaveC Wrote:
(07-03-2018, 06:45 PM)Terry Wrote: Where controversy and county cricket are interlinked, expect to see some trenchant opinions from George:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...y-payments
In particular:
"For too long, deals have been conducted out of sight and scrutiny. For too long, counties have been forced into acquiescence by offers of patronage or fears of retribution."

This would of course be the same ECB that has recently strong-armed our own county into putting into place new rules on more transparent governance on pain of funding cuts?   9898

Whilst that doesn't mean that good governance is a bad thing, I agree that it's ironic that the pot should be pressurising the kettle to clean up its act.
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Follow up from Messrs Nash and Dobell:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/2...ystem-nash
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It does not make for pleasant reading. All cricket supporters have a right to know just what is going on and just is planned by the ECB.
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As someone who after four decades watching the game, now only plans to go to mostly T20 matches as a season ticket holder.. and Im not the only person who has made that transition.... I will admit that the future needs to be made clear to cricket supporters to ease some of the forthcomming pain. For a few years I have thought we would end up with a dozen counties playing first class cricket and the rest playing T20 only. It would seem a tighter model is being discussed. Before its too late, a county like, for example, Leicestershire would likely be more competative and have more money from focussing on the future in a T20 only model... Memberships are falling rapidly for most counties (I believe in a good year now ours sadly gets to just over 4,700... and how many of them pay reduced price fees), the game needs to embrace the T20 supporter and let them have an input into the club rather than being sidelined as season ticket holders or fans. That 4,700 would then be far healthier. People may not like my point... but change is coming fast. Fortunatley I think our club is in a good position to handle it.
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Dereck Pringle has written about this in todays cricket paper. With all this negative publicity, Graves and Harrison should resign in embarrassment, or maybe the counties should grow a pair, and have a vote off no confidence in these two. Oh sorry folks i am talking a complete load off rubbish never going to happen is it.
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(09-03-2018, 02:45 PM)Warleybear Wrote: As someone who after four decades watching the game,  now only plans to go to mostly T20 matches as a season ticket holder.. and Im not the only person who has made that transition.... I will admit that the future needs to be made clear to cricket supporters to ease some of the forthcomming pain. For a few years I have thought we would end up with a dozen counties playing first class cricket and the rest playing T20 only. It would seem a tighter model is being discussed. Before its too late, a county like, for example, Leicestershire would likely be more competative and have more money from focussing on the future in a T20 only model... Memberships are falling rapidly for most counties (I believe in a good year now ours sadly gets to just over 4,700... and how many of them pay reduced price fees), the game needs to embrace the T20 supporter and let them have an input into the club rather than being sidelined as season ticket holders or fans. That 4,700 would then be far healthier. People may not like my point... but change is coming fast. Fortunatley I think our club is in a good position to handle it.


There may well be a debate to be had about the continued existence of 18 first class counties and the structure of the game in England.

However Graves and Harrison - presumably with the tacit approval of some counties, sadly one of which I suspect is our own - are using coercion, threats and monetary bribes to bring about change by stealth without there ever being a proper debate.

I have never gone into the start of a new season feeling as apprehensive and depressed about the state of the domestic game as I am now.

George Dobell said in one of his post-Ashes pieces that the only measure the ECB can be judged on as successful is financial. In every other respect they are failing the game.

Shame on them.
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This will be the first season for many years that I will not be attending any first class cricket, I too have become disillusioned, it will always be a great game but sadly ruined by the powers that be
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Had a email yesterday from the cricketer magazine, asking for there opinions, so filled in the survey, then looked at other peoples opinions, and guess what most peoples main complaint the 4 day game not been played, in the main summer months, and at weekends. Surprise surprise. Like i said in a previous post, the counties need to grow a pair, and get a vote of no confidence in Graves, and Harrison
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What a sad state of affairs - from the euphoria created by the 2005 Ashes series shown on terrestial tv the ECB have almost wrecked over 100 years of this game.
All we will be left with is T20, T20 and more T20. The 5 day test matches, which will rarely get into the 4th day will end up being watched by 90% corporate hospitality guests in view of the rising cost of both the entrance and food and drink.
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Fortunately cricket is not just the first class game. If you have the time and inclination there are lots of alternative competitions across all age groups. Just as the Premier does not represent all football. With very little first class cricket to watch in the main Summer months people might enjoy trying watching the game at a lower level. They might be pleasantly surprised. Smaller grounds usually are usually more attractive and i have found provide a worthwhile day out.
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Can anyone else think of another sport where its real supporters are compromised to bring in outsiders who don't like or understand the game to watch an artificial version thereof?
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I've just finished reading Class Peace by Eric Midwinter, a social historian and cricket lover. 
It's a book about social status and English cricket over the last 150 years.
His slightly depressing conclusion is that cricket administrators missed their chance to re-invent the basis of first-class cricket after the First World War 100 years ago. 
As he says, "As of 1919, 17 clubs, not all of them sensibly located from a business viewpoint, playing a lengthly series of 18-hour fixtures, was a cockeyed scheme from a purely commercial standpont."
He laments the fact that the Herculean task of transforming the now "18 sacred temples" into an economic proposition appears to be beyond human action.
He compares those who love first-class cricket (of whom he is one) to steam train addicts, cherishing a slowly dying cultural artefact. 
I am hoping he is wrong but fearing that there is at least some truth in his analysis.
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Perhaps there is a connection between posts 657 (Parkfield) and 659 (Terry). Maybe the commercial professional game will be played on a One Day/T20 format leaving the "18 Hour" game to be played by amateurs/semi-pros at local clubs around the country.

The one day game would be played in the week mainly going into the evening which would attract corporate entertainment as well as the TV companies. This would leave the amateur game to be played at weekends and would be supported by lovers of the red ball game. Commercially this could work but I am not sure life would be more enjoyable.
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