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The Future of County Cricket
The one thing that struck me in both of the interviews with Graves on BBC and Sky was that 4 day CC cricket was scarcely mentionned. The ECB should be banging the drum for this competition which, despite the lack of interest they seem to have in it, is without doubt the strongest and best first class league in world cricket. 

And for once I agree with WB. A degreee of soft promotion of CC cricket - evening sessions, Saturday starts,  free entrance for u16s or kids for a quid would all help. I've seen what Wasps have done done in Cov from a standing start to make afternoons at the Ricoh an event. A bit of creative thinking with CC cricket might just improve it's profile. The product itself is superb as anyone that was at Nottingham last week will tell you.
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Although it's not mentioned in the article, Mr Graves described the T20 Blast as "mediocre" compared with T20 competitions elsewhere in the world.
For goodness sake, the T20 Blast is an ECB product.  In what other area of activity can you get away with knocking your own product, just as this year's model is being launched?  It seems to me like a real Gerald Ratner moment (and for those who don't remember, see https://www.theguardian.com/business/201...92-archive)
What an idiot!
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Graves is a Yorkshireman,enough said, they like what they say and say what they like -you can tell a Yorkshireman but you can't tell him anything
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If Warley gets his wish for a digital screen advertising fixtures, it could say: "Come and see the Bears v the Pears in the T20 Blast - guaranteed to be truly mediocre!"
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(20-05-2016, 03:13 PM)Warleybear Wrote: I agree.... but I do think a couple of championship games in late May / June could be played during the week with playing hours of approx. 1.00pm to 8.00pm. Its hardly day / night - but it does allow people to get to see a final session or two after work.

I also think that there should be (and I keep banging the drum for this) a large digital screen outside the ground showing fixtures, ticket prices, adverts and state of play. Its 4pm on an 8pm finish in the championship and the board shows adults £ 2 children free (or whatever 'flexible' pricing is chosen) and Bell and Trott are at the wicket nearing their centuries; then it may entice a family or two across from canon hill park - from small acorns etc. I saw the old style fixture board had been removed the other week... don't know if its been replaced. Anyway - county cricket needs some positive lateral thinking to promote itself.

Warley - digital billboards - you're a true prophet:
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/05/20/e...rest-sport
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It needs to include Warwickshire upcoming fixtures in all formats.

My initial interest in cricket was partly because I would see the advertising board outside the ground as I passed by on the 1a bus coming home from school.
LE - aka John
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Looks like split views about the future of T20:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/...onise-t20/
Neil Snowball says:
“All I say to other chief execs is that the model has worked brilliantly for us,” Neil Snowball, the Warwickshire chief executive, told The Cricketer magazine last month. “I think it has shown how a city-based team can be effective. Nationally, we’ve just got to do something to supercharge the T20 product. We’re working hard to average 10,000 a match in our 25,000-seat stadium. But I feel we’ve got to do something a bit different, to get this and other stadiums full and secure a higher profile on Sky.”
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Can it really be said that Birmingham Bears is a bigger attraction than Warwickshire Bears?
LE - aka John
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But the majority of people who go to our T20 matches go because they know that the team that's playing is really Warwickshire. It's not proof that city based cricket would be a success.
Proud to be a Bear
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I think its time membership packages were split. You can buy a Birmingham T20 membership and a Warwickshire CC membership and a 50 over membership....
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"we've just got to do something to supercharge the T20 product". Er, why? One of the sayings of former businessman Neutron Jack Welch was that you should deal with the world as it is, not as you would like it to be. Maybe it would be nice to have full stadia rocking the night away but in the British climate it ain't gonna happen. Getting 10,000 people through the door is pretty good going. Live with it.
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It's the constant tinkering with the formats that loses the fans. No-one knows when games are being played, which format is being played and now we have leagues where teams do not play each other on an equal basis. Can you imagine the 6 nations championship only playing 4 games each or the EPL having a 34 match season.
LE - aka John
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(28-07-2016, 09:13 AM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: "we've just got to do something to supercharge the T20 product". Er, why? One of the sayings of former businessman Neutron Jack Welch was that you should deal with the world as it is, not as you would like it to be. Maybe it would be nice to have full stadia rocking the night away but in the British climate it ain't gonna happen. Getting 10,000 people through the door is pretty good going. Live with it.

I tend to agree with you, Grizzlybear.  I remember the first floodlit match ever at Edgbaston v Somerset - the ground packed full on a warm summer's night.  But that kind of evening is the exception.  I've watched floodlit cricket in Australia and South Africa and you can pretty well guarantee the weather. Not here. So whilst in many ways I would love to be proved wrong, the idea of an Edgbaston regularly jammed full for T20 evenings is probably delusional.
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(28-07-2016, 10:59 AM)Terry Wrote:
(28-07-2016, 09:13 AM)GrizzlyBear Wrote: "we've just got to do something to supercharge the T20 product". Er, why? One of the sayings of former businessman Neutron Jack Welch was that you should deal with the world as it is, not as you would like it to be. Maybe it would be nice to have full stadia rocking the night away but in the British climate it ain't gonna happen. Getting 10,000 people through the door is pretty good going. Live with it.

I tend to agree with you, Grizzlybear.  I remember the first floodlit match ever at Edgbaston v Somerset - the ground packed full on a warm summer's night.  But that kind of evening is the exception.  I've watched floodlit cricket in Australia and South Africa and you can pretty well guarantee the weather. Not here. So whilst in many ways I would love to be proved wrong, the idea of an Edgbaston regularly jammed full for T20 evenings is probably delusional.

I think we're farting against thunder here. The ECB have been knocked back by the majority of the counties time and time again on this issue yet they keep reviving it in a different format.

I've reluctantly come to accept that they along with our chief exec and 1 or 2 other misguided idiots will get their way. Good luck to them - I echo pretty much everything that's been said above.
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They should get on and do it.

Play the whole thing in July so there is room for a test series in May/June and another in August.

Also so they can show 2 games per evening starting at 4pm on free to air so kids get hooked on cricket via the telly and 7pm on Sky

But they should also let the rest of us be able to watch proper cricket in July also.

This means a return to one division

Counties can then plan their squads without fear of relegation if they lose a couple of players to the T20 auction

Or perhaps have the whole 50 over tournament for the counties while the T20 circus is on

The county Friday night T20 can still take place, slightly reduced, on Fridays in May and June as kind of a prelude to the main T20 Circus and as a shop window for the players trying to make one of the Franchises
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The longstanding cricket member is way down the list of people the ECB think about when putting forward plans to try and make even more money. We are no longer a members club. Not consulted about change of name, starting times for games, reduction in 4 day cricket etc. Povey/ Snowball run the show and we have to like it or lump it. Elderly members without transport of their own do not want to be wandering about Birmingham looking for buses/trains after 10pm on a Friday evening, the club appear not to care about the members views or welfare at all. I trust they will give people like that the option to have Championship membership only. If not members will probably decide they have had enough of paying for cricket they cannot and probably do not want to watch.
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Meanwhile, T20 Blast attendances at Edgbaston are up:
http://birminghambears.com/news/bears-co...e=Facebook
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Warwickshire are apparently the first county to publicly back franchise T20

No real surprise there
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Yes, so says the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/...revolutio/
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Interesting Terry...

This could be easily solved. Briefly.... The club splits its membership groups. You pay for what you like. If you like both cc and t20 you pay for both.... If one but not the other you pay for that. The appropriate memberships and gate receipts fund the appropriate squad. The revenue from internationals funds the ground, pitches etc. You could Even go one stage further.... Split the club into two and each pays the holding company "Edgbaston Plc" for using the ground on a annual fee plus daily use charge. Any surplace could then be spent on youth development. Some players would only have a cc or t20 contract... Some both. Basically each format stands on its own two feet.... No one can moan then. Clubs could then play at outgrounds if they choose.

Excellent news about attendances.....
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