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Return of free-to-air cricket coverage?
#41
These days the Birmingham and Coventry and Warwickshire club system is all the same. The same sock-economic profile across club sides.

I played Warwickshire representative cricket. I went to an independent school but about half the sides I played with went to state schools. I doubt that is the case now. If you look at the backgrounds of most county and England players they are increasingly prosperous backgrounds. Which is a great shame when you think of the likes of Trueman, Larwood, Foster.

Its undeniable cricket is becoming a more exclusive sport for players and spectators. That's where marketing and pr come in. If you sell your rights to exclusive satellite bidders, price international matches at high prices and link your top players with waitrose, land rovers, investment banks it is inevitable which way the game goes.

And it's a shame because cricket was a genuine national game.

To be fair Edgbaston crowds socio-economic make up is still different to Oval and Lord's as we saw in the atmospheres at the Ashes last year.

But cricket has to look at retaining or recovering mass appeal.
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#42
(20-11-2015, 08:04 PM)Jon Wrote: These days the Birmingham and Coventry and Warwickshire club system is all the same. The same sock-economic profile across club sides.

I played Warwickshire representative cricket. I went to an independent school but about half the sides I played with went to state schools. I doubt that is the case now. If you look at the backgrounds of most county and England players they are increasingly prosperous backgrounds. Which is a great shame when you think of the likes of Trueman, Larwood, Foster.

Its undeniable cricket is becoming a more exclusive sport for players and spectators. That's where marketing and pr come in. If you sell your rights to exclusive satellite bidders, price international matches at high prices and link your top players with waitrose, land rovers, investment banks it is inevitable which way the game goes.

And it's a shame because cricket was a genuine national game.

To be fair Edgbaston crowds socio-economic make up is still different to Oval and Lord's as we saw in the atmospheres at the Ashes last year.

But cricket has to look at retaining or recovering mass appeal.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree about cricket's 'exclusivity' etc - Don't think that's the case with the present Warwickshire Playing Staff (Coaching Staff too I believe) - Also the Warwickshire Cricket Board supported by many similar minded organisations across the region are certainly 'inclusive' - According to recent ECB statistics cricket is once again growing as a sport in our region.

In fact an organisation I am working closely with is looking to set up a Coaching Hub from early 2016 to provide opportunities/facilities for children (boys and girls) from 11 years of age upwards to get more involved in Cricket - Receive better and more frequent coaching - Have more opportunities to play, umpire and be a scorer. Cricket is no different to any other sport, business or hobby - You have to work at it 24-7 - You have to have a Plan of Campaign - The only way Cricket will fail is if WE fail it!
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#43
As you say we'll agree to differ. Most of the recent players to break through with WCCC have been privately educated.

When we see the likes of KFC, Pepsi, McDonalds taking an interest in cricket - as they do in other countries - we'll know the audience watching the game and playing the game has changed. Instead waitrose, investec, royal london rather suggests I am right on this.

Clubs are trying hard across the County but the number of schools playing cricket is declining.
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#44
As someone who is actively involved in the Warwickshire Cricket League, I'd say that there is a very broad social, age and ethnic mix involved in the league. This season I've had players aged 13-60+ involved in games, from all sorts of social background, with some teams been almost exclusively from one social/ethnic group and other teams having a wide mix. Clubs in the latter group are actually more enjoyable to deal with.

Of the current Warwickshire squad, it's actually a pretty even mix of state or private school educated players, with some actually at private schools on sports scholarships.
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#45
(20-11-2015, 08:43 PM)Jon Wrote: As you say we'll agree to differ. Most of the recent players to break through with WCCC have been privately educated.

When we see the likes of KFC, Pepsi, McDonalds taking an interest in cricket - as they do in other countries - we'll know the audience watching the game and playing the game has changed. Instead waitrose, investec, royal london rather suggests I am right on this.

Clubs are trying hard across the County but the number of schools playing cricket is declining.



As prior stated I'll agree to disagree!
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#46
(20-11-2015, 10:24 PM)The Good Mugabe Wrote: As someone who is actively involved in the Warwickshire Cricket League, I'd say that there is a very broad social, age and ethnic mix involved in the league.  This season I've had players aged 13-60+ involved in games, from all sorts of social background, with some teams been almost exclusively from one social/ethnic group and other teams having a wide mix.  Clubs in the latter group are actually more enjoyable to deal with.

Of the current Warwickshire squad, it's actually a pretty even mix of state or private school educated players, with some actually at private schools on sports scholarships.



Totally agree with your post - Well played!
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#47
There are rumours that BT might take over ITV:
http://www.c21media.net/bt-tipped-to-make-itv-bid/
That would throw free-to-air back into the picture.
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#48
Well, it's not exactly free-to-air live cricket but at least the BBC have come back into the picture:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/fe...highlights
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#49
Yes its hardly enough though. BBC live sports coverage is getting less and less

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#50
Not sure what Warley will make of this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket...-role.html
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#51
In the context of that article, I would just like to point out that I get my polo shirts from Primark.
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#52
That's the reason for expanding the first class game to new areas and consolidating the existing...... if Leicestershire add to the championship and the ECB can support them then great..... Personally I would 'tweak' some counties to make them more competitive and invest some money spreading the word of our great game into one or two new areas. My vision is not a one sided retreat .... it is about modernity and expansion of the four day game.... what talent are we missing out on in the 'unrepresented' areas of the country, when we have (for example) virtually three counties within a stones throw of each other that seem to have struggled (look at the number of Division 2 wooden spoons) quite a bit this century in the four day game? Broad and Taylor would still have risen to the new structure in that area.

I don't know..... finding solutions is difficult.... I'm sure standing still is not the answer.... There are other counties that need reviewing too (Gloucs, Glamorgan etc.). Durham, despite a painful start, has been a success and shows what can be achieved. The table of all counties performances (Winning 1 point, 2nd 2 etc) since the inception of two division county championships is perhaps a fairer reflection than wooden spoons.

1 Warwickshire 86
2 Lancashire 88
3 Sussex 92
4 Yorkshire 106
5 Nottinghamshire 112
6 Somerset 122
6 Durham 122
8 Surrey 125
9 Hampshire 131
10 Kent 137
11 Middlesex 152
12 Worcestershire 175
13 Essex 191
14 Northamptonshire 198
15 Leicestershire 219
16 Gloucestershire 223
17 Glamorgan 225
18 Derbyshire 235

Perhaps the answer is to leave alone and see what happens......... less upset that way in the current club of 18?
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#53
I've never understood why Staffordshire don't push for first class status. Bigger county population wise than Durham.

Cannock, West Bromwich, Leek, Walsall, Stoke on Trent, the Potteries, Stafford, Burton, Newcastle under Lyme, Tamworth, Wolverhampton, Smethwick, Lichfield.

Big population base.
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#54
From memory (I could be wrong) I think they were asked at around the time of Durham... but decided not to progress. It is an area that perhaps would be good for the first class game.... although I think geographic spread into new areas is needed to expand the championships coverage.
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#55
As long as they don't replace Durham that's fine with me! I've been to many a day of cricket at Chester-le-street. Although if they move down south I don't mind either. Living in Reading means that most southern grounds are within touching distance.
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(06-02-2016, 02:56 AM)Exiled Bear Wrote: As long as they don't replace Durham that's fine with me! I've been to many a day of cricket at Chester-le-street. Although if they move down south I don't mind either. Living in Reading means that most southern grounds are within touching distance.

Reading, the place from which you can easily escape to somewhere nicer - sounds like a great strapline.
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(23-08-2015, 09:35 PM)Terry Wrote: BT get in on the act - still not free-to-air but maybe a fresh approach:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article...paign=1490

Well the cricket commentary team for BT sport has been announced and includes KP, Vaughan, Swann and to be led by front man DJ Greg James (whoever he is). I shall be watching the 17/18 Ashes in Oz on the mute button. Is there a room big enough to contain those egos?
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Greg James:
From Wikipedia:
"James is godfather to Ruby, the younger daughter of England cricketer James Anderson
James dated singer Ellie Goulding for 18 months from June 2010 to January 2012. They began dating at one of her live shows, and allegedly broke up as a result of her busy work schedule. From November 2013 until summer 2015, James was in a relationship with Jess Lord, whom he met at a pre-Olympics party.
He is a keen cricket fan, and used to play for Hertfordshire Under-18s. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_James
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(21-10-2016, 09:36 AM)stingray Wrote:
(23-08-2015, 09:35 PM)Terry Wrote: BT get in on the act - still not free-to-air but maybe a fresh approach:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article...paign=1490

Well the cricket commentary team for BT sport has been announced and includes KP, Vaughan, Swann and to be led by front man DJ Greg James (whoever he is). I shall be watching the 17/18 Ashes in Oz on the mute button. Is there a room big enough to contain those egos?

I have to say that when I first saw the line up for BT Sport I thought it must be some sort of joke. They couldn't really have got any bigger egos if they tried - KP, Graeme Swann and Vaughan should be a fun combination!
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#60
Are the R&A making the same mistake for golf that the ECB made for cricket back in 2005?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/j...onship-bbc
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